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In this clip from The Manager’s Playbook, Shawn Desman, Steve Zsirai, and Chad Walsh open up about what it really takes to build authentic relationships in the music industry. They discuss why keeping a small, trusted circle matters, how boundaries and respect lead to better problem-solving, and why empathy and honesty are essential traits for any lasting partnership. Shawn also reflects on how personal struggles, including overcoming addiction, shaped his perspective and strengthened his relationships. The conversation highlights the challenges of balancing business with genuine connection, and why protecting your energy is just as important as strategy when navigating this industry. Simply put, a conversation like this doesn't come cheap. Most artists fail because they don’t have a plan. Venice Music gives you a personalized rollout strategy, global distribution, and real support from people who care. Release your music the right way, every time. http://bit.ly/46tvG9s Timestamps: 00:00 Navigating Authentic Relationships in the Industry 00:59 The Importance of Boundaries and Personal Connections 02:00 Overcoming Personal Struggles and Building Core Values 03:37 The Role of Empathy and Honesty in Relationships 04:53 Balancing Business and Personal Relationships 06:33 The Personal Nature of Artist-Manager Relationships 08:40 The Value of Long-Term Relationships and Networking 10:14 Appreciation and Authenticity in the Industry The opinions shared by our guest are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host or The Manager’s Playbook. Book a 1:1 Strategy Session with Mauricio Ruiz, host of The Manager's Playbook, with over 16 years of experience for tailored advice for artists and managers. Consultation Fees Apply https://calendly.com/themanagersplaybook/1hourconsult Join the Discord, a real space for real music business conversations. https://app.levellr.com/the-managers-playbook Follow The Manager's Playbook Newsletter https://www.the-managers-playbook.beehiiv.com/c/subscribe Instagram https://www.instagram.com/mauroisruiz/ TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@managersplaybook Facebook https://www.facebook.com/mngrsplaybook X https://www.twitter.com/mngrsplaybook LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-managers-playbook Snapchat https://snapchat.com/t/bCaZ8cvw Website https://mngrsplaybook.com Host: Mauricio Ruiz Executive Producer: Mauricio Ruiz Director of Photography: Nathan Duarte, Grid Studio On Location Sound: Nathan Duarte, Grid Studio Editors: Jordan Mar, Grid Studio Co-Editor: Mauricio Ruiz Colourists: Grid Studio Sound Engineer: Madeline Currie Project Manager: Erica Kongvongxay Marketing Coordinator: Melanie Letra-Frade Marketing Intern: Natalia Vassilian Production Company: 8 Til Faint #themanagersplaybookpodcast #musicbusinesspodcast #musicbusiness #musicindustry #artistmanagement #musicbusinesstips